Title: What More Should the U.S. Do to Prevent Transitional Repression? Description: Some foreign governments have harassed, abducted, threatened or even assassinated U.S.-based individuals in an effort to silence their criticism. Prominent examples of transnational repression like this include the 2018 murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi by Saudis, the abduction of Youras Ziankovich (a lawyer and U.S. citizen) by Russian police in 2021, and the arrest warrants issued by Hong Kong police against pro-democracy protestors living outside of the city. We'll learn more about efforts to combat these attacks from GAO's Chelsa Kenney. Related GAO Work: GAO-24-106183, Human Rights: Agency Actions Needed to Address Harassment of Dissidents and Other Tactics of Transnational Repression in the U.S. Released: October 2023 [MUSIC] [Chelsa Kenney:] Transnational repression can be a threat to democracy, to human rights, and to national security. [Holly Hobbs:] Hi and welcome to GAO's Watchdog report. Your source for fact based, nonpartisan news and information from the U.S. Government Accountability Office. I'm your host, Holly Hobbs. Some foreign governments have harassed, abducted, threatened or even assassinated U.S.-based individuals in an effort to silence their criticism. Prominent examples of transnational repression like this include the 2018 murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi by Saudis, the abduction of Youras Ziankovich (a lawyer and U.S. citizen) by Russian police in 2021, and the arrest warrants issued by Hong Kong police against pro-democracy protestors living outside of the city. How common are these acts of transnational repression, and what can the U.S. do to prevent them? We'll find out more from GAO's Chelsa Kenney--an expert on international affairs and human rights. Thanks for joining us! [Chelsa Kenney:] Thanks for having me. [Holly Hobbs:] So, Chelsa, I just shared some of the headline grabbing examples of transnational repression. But those are the shocking, high-profile examples, right. What can you tell us about how common these events are and what's kind of the range of what these activities look like? [Chelsa Kenney:] So we don't know precisely how common it is, but we did hear a number of different examples of how transnational repression may occur. So, it can range from things like non-direct tactics--such as surveillance through spyware--to very direct tactics--like disappearances or even assassinations. In fact, the rise of digital advances may make it easier for perpetrators to increasingly reach across borders to harm their victims. Considering that governments engage in these tactics to discourage criticism that they consider a threat to their global standing--it's often exiles, including journalists, human rights defenders, and political opponents that are among the types of people who might be targeted by foreign governments, even while here in the United States. [Holly Hobbs:] So we don't know necessarily how often this happens, but do we know who maybe the top perpetrators are? [Chelsa Kenney:] There is no single list. However, the People's Republic of China, Iran, Russia, Rwanda, and Turkey were commonly identified as perpetrators across several government and non-government sources. [Holly Hobbs:] And these threats and attacks, even though they involve U.S.-based individuals, they aren't always happening on U.S. soil. It seems like that would make it difficult to investigate or even know about. How does the U.S. government even know who's committing these attacks? [Chelsa Kenney:] Transnational repression is very hard to track--especially when is indirect, like a social media smear campaign. But victims may also be reluctant to go and report transnational repression out of fear of retribution. In addition, a lack of awareness of what transnational repression is and how to look for it makes it really hard for law enforcement to track and identify problems. For example, take the FBI. The FBI collects data on transnational repression against people in the United States when there is a potential violation of U.S. law or national security threat. But, state and local law enforcement, who are often the first to encounter victims of transnational repression, sometimes treat incidents as ordinary crimes. That's because they may not recognize a foreign aspect that could indicate it was an act of transnational repression. [Holly Hobbs:] So assuming the U.S. knows who committed these acts, what can the federal government do about it? [Chelsa Kenney:] The Department of Justice has used laws addressing some repression schemes. For example, those prohibiting harassment and cyberstalking to investigate and prosecute individual perpetrators. But when it comes to addressing the source of transnational repression--and by that I mean the country itself.The Arms Export Control Act has a specific provision related to this. Under this U.S. law, arms transfers are prohibited to any country that the president determines to be involved in a consistent pattern of activities that could be considered transnational repression against people in the United States. [Holly Hobbs:] So are there any limits to the Department of Justice's or U.S. authority in taking these actions? [Chelsa Kenney:] Yes, actually, most of the existing criminal laws came before the Internet, and this can make it more difficult to prosecute individuals who are outside the United States, but that are using the Internet to harm victims inside the United States. Another limitation is that U.S. law does not specifically criminalize or define what constitutes transnational repression. [Holly Hobbs:] What about this Arms Export Control Act option that prohibits arms transfers to countries. How has the U.S. used that? [Chelsa Kenney:] We found that proposed arms transfers undergo several review processes. So they look at foreign policy issues, national security issues, and even human rights issues. But we also found that the U.S. government has never invoked that prohibition on arms transfers. In fact, in recent years, the U.S. has approved tens of billions of dollars in arms transfers to countries that those government and non-government sources identified as having engaged in transnational repression. {MUSIC} [Holly Hobbs:] Chelsa just told us that the U.S. has taken steps to discourage acts of transnational repression. But it faces challenges in identifying when acts take place. And even when the U.S. knows these events happen, agencies may lack authority to take action. So Chelsa, what more should agencies be doing to address transnational repression and hold these perpetrators accountable? [Chelsa Kenney:] There are a few things that we would suggest to both the Department of Justice and to the Department of State to address this issue. First, DOJ should take additional steps to enhance understanding of transnational reppression, both among federal agencies and also state and local law enforcement agencies. Second, DOJ should identify any gaps in the current law for how we address transnational repression and, if appropriate, propose any changes to that law. And then finally, the State Department should coordinate with and collect information on transnational oppression from other agencies to help inform its arms transfer review efforts. [Holly Hobbs:] You had also talked about the limits to agency's ability or authority to take action. Do we think Congress should do something about this? [Chelsa Kenney:] You know, one thing we found is that Congress was not fully aware of how the Arms Export Control Act provision was being considered. Specifically, Congress doesn't know if and when administrations have considered a foreign country's engagement in transnational repression when they were determining whether or not to approve arms transfers. And this goes back to when the law was first enacted in 1981. So, if Congress wants more insight into why a government that has repeatedly engaged in transnational repression still receives arms from the U.S., Congress should consider an amendment to the law to ensure they receive that information. [Holly Hobbs:] And last question, what's the bottom line of this report? [Chelsa Kenney:] Transnational repression can be a threat to democracy, to human rights, to national security. It can also have serious, grave, personal, social, and professional consequences for the lives of victims. It's important that we take action to deter repressive governments, promote accountability for perpetrators, and increase protections for victims. [Holly Hobbs:] That was Chelsa Kenney talking about GAO's recent report on transnational repression. Thanks for your time, Chelsa. [Chelsa Kenney:] Thanks for having me, Holly. [Holly Hobbs:] And thank you for listening to the Watchdog report. To hear more podcasts, subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen and make sure to leave a rating and review to let others know about the work we're doing. For more from the congressional watchdog, the U.S. Government Accountability Office, visit us at GAO.gov.